Comic 273 - They're What?

17th Mar 2015, 12:00 AM
They're What?
Average Rating: 5 (18 votes)

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Centcomm 17th Mar 2015, 12:00 AM edit delete
Centcomm
Rose spent a lot of time coming up with Ones "Voice" She deserves a round of applause !
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Haegan2005 17th Mar 2015, 12:09 AM edit delete reply

A round of applause to her! She did well.

Certain concepts simply cannot be communicated unless the receiver of the information has something to relate it to. Her use of symbology to indicate an incomplete concept was well done.

That has always been a problem for me with these "Universal Translators" that all these sci'fi shows have.
velvetsanity 17th Mar 2015, 12:24 AM edit delete reply

The 'concepts' seem to all be names (except for one, but even that one is a noun)...planet name, species name, ship name, ship component/system name...which makes sense :)
Centcomm 17th Mar 2015, 4:59 AM edit delete reply

I didnt want to do the standard text replace - or similar things we wanted something kinda different I think this works :D
velvetsanity 17th Mar 2015, 8:41 AM edit delete reply

It works exceedingly well, I think
Stormwind13 17th Mar 2015, 6:22 PM edit delete reply

Agreed Haegan. BIG round of applause for Rose. The meaning is clear, even for those concepts that don't translate into English.
jamie59 17th Mar 2015, 12:21 AM edit delete reply

So they didn't intend to blast Earth like they did. But why not pull the plug?
velvetsanity 17th Mar 2015, 12:26 AM edit delete reply

I suspect that they aren't yet aware of the harm its doing. Possibly they aren't even yet aware that it's damaged to begin with
Sheela 17th Mar 2015, 1:12 AM edit delete reply

IT's also possible it's organic technology .. thus if they "pull the plug" on the transmitter, it could severely hurt the ship, possibly fatally so.
Centcomm 17th Mar 2015, 4:59 AM edit delete reply

That will actually be answered soon I promise :D
plymayer 17th Mar 2015, 1:57 AM edit delete reply

Well, howdy new neighbors! Come on in. The water is fine.
Centcomm 17th Mar 2015, 5:00 AM edit delete reply

:D
Stormwind13 17th Mar 2015, 6:23 PM edit delete reply

Watch out for alligators, plymayer!
plymayer 18th Mar 2015, 12:34 AM edit delete reply

They are very active this time of year :)
furushotakeru 17th Mar 2015, 2:07 AM edit delete reply
Oh! These must be the epiphytes. Don't know why I didn't make the connection sooner.
mjkj 17th Mar 2015, 10:22 AM edit delete reply

Yup they are - this is confirmed by DataChasers :D
DizzasterJuice 17th Mar 2015, 2:49 AM edit delete reply

Well there goes my whole "bugs laying eggs in their bodies" theory.
Centcomm 17th Mar 2015, 5:00 AM edit delete reply

Yep they dont lay eggs :D
Stormwind13 17th Mar 2015, 6:19 PM edit delete reply

Poor Dizz. Wrong about what the aliens were doing. Instead they just want to turn humanity into fertilizer.

Humanity obviously isn't SMART enough to be used for anything else. Look at what they are doing to each other on the planet. Look what they are doing to one of the life bearing planets!
ProfEtheric 17th Mar 2015, 3:11 AM edit delete reply

I suspected this was the Epiphyte ship!
Centcomm 17th Mar 2015, 5:00 AM edit delete reply

You are correct :D you will even get to see one soon enough :D
chk 17th Mar 2015, 9:36 AM edit delete reply

Me too.
chk 17th Mar 2015, 9:49 AM edit delete reply

It was alluded to in Data Chasers some time ago.
Centcomm 17th Mar 2015, 5:01 AM edit delete reply

hehe interesting way of interpreting the symbol :D
cattservant 17th Mar 2015, 7:21 AM edit delete reply

Sorting things right out!
Centcomm 17th Mar 2015, 6:45 PM edit delete reply

in all the right places !
chk 17th Mar 2015, 9:34 AM edit delete reply

Curiouser and curiouser.
Centcomm 17th Mar 2015, 6:44 PM edit delete reply

yep :D
Karyl 17th Mar 2015, 9:57 AM edit delete reply
If you have never read any works by Octavia Butler, it might be a good time to investigate them. She has a series based on aliens who are required by their own species drive to rescue humans, even though it is detrimental to their well-being. And humans don't take well to this, even though the planet is dead...look for Lilith's Brood which encompasses the 3 books I am referring to.
Centcomm 17th Mar 2015, 6:44 PM edit delete reply

I tend to avoid things that go closely with other works for fear of accidentally stealing ideas afterwards sure :D
highlander55 17th Mar 2015, 7:53 PM edit delete reply

Karyl.. Is that the one were the aliens are furry creatures that have rubber walls to grip as they float around their ship? A female of the species imprints the Alpha male to save the humans?
Karyl 19th Mar 2015, 9:57 PM edit delete reply
No, these aliens look more like walking sea creatures, standing upright with a crown of waving tentacles and multiple arms that deliver both warnings and connection through stingers. Humanity's general reaction is to see them somehow is snakelike or repulsive.
mjkj 17th Mar 2015, 10:20 AM edit delete reply

Wow, great update... :)

Yup, telepathic is bad.

...another round of applause for Rose :D <3

Stormwind13 17th Mar 2015, 6:30 PM edit delete reply

Not sure telepathy is BAD, mjkj. I'm thinking more telepathy is SCARY for those that don't have it nor any real way of blocking it.
mjkj 18th Mar 2015, 9:08 AM edit delete reply

I did not mean telepathy in general - but telepathy in this case: telepathic radio - "attacking" the humans. This is very bad.



Hydrargyrum 18th Mar 2015, 8:23 PM edit delete reply

I have no post. I just like to say telepathic radio attack. :D
mjkj 17th Mar 2015, 10:24 AM edit delete reply

Hmm, could also be Living Tree with Teardrop
Timeghost 17th Mar 2015, 1:47 PM edit delete reply
This was interesting; now it is very interesting. I am greatly looking forward to see where this is going.
Centcomm 17th Mar 2015, 6:44 PM edit delete reply

YAY!
MobilePhotosynthetic 17th Mar 2015, 3:04 PM edit delete reply
Plant-people : the concept is very interesting, also when you think about how a species like that could have evolve and how it would be possible for it to be mobile enough to be a technological species. On earth some organism are photosynth├ętic and very mobile, I have an octopus in memory and may be a fish! From that point in may exists a planetary environment where photosynthetism and mobility is the key to success, we could especially imagine flying beings with skin wings like bats and may be pterodactyle, because they would have enough wing surface to be loaded with energy from the sun when flying. A sort of solar plane concept! At the same time they would have to eat and drink with a main orifice, because we can't imagine flying beings with roots (too incompatible and too hard and dangerous to dig your root again), so we could imagine flying photo-synthetic beings eating mostly mineral and very dissociated living fabric like plant do! But they would have had to be forced to evolve these capabilities rather than simply prey on defenseless rooted plants! How would an ecosystem reach such a goal? There is a great deal of space for imagination! A possibility would be a planet where it's impossible to be safely rooted when you are big because the ground moves all the time, let's say daily very strong "earth"-shakes that would be root breakers. ... may be :-)
xpacetrue 17th Mar 2015, 5:44 PM edit delete reply

Re: Theories on sentient plant evolution:
Perhaps they started out as a carnivorous plant, like a Venus Fly Trap? And perhaps their environment was a bit spotty in terms of a certain mineral that they needed? Perhaps something to help them glow in the dark or achieve a certain color to attract insects? Or, perhaps, help them move faster to catch insects? Or, instead of carnivorous, maybe they needed it to attract insects for pollination? And so they evolved motile roots or root-like appendages to allow them to slowly crawl to a mineral-rich location?
Or, perhaps there was something about their environment that encouraged animal-like species to develop photosynthesis for sustenance, as opposed to consuming plants or animals? Perhaps the plants and/or animals there evolved to become too toxic to be consumed or could only be consumed in smaller quantities? (There are many Terrestrial plants that can only be consumed either after cooking {to destroy toxins} or only in small quantities. And too much lean meat, like rabbit, can lead to protein poisoning. Also, seeds are usually protected by weak toxins that could become a problem in large quantities.} Or maybe animal migration or plant growth seasons were too unreliable and they had to become photosynthetic to supplement their diet?

Trivia 1: Mitochondria, the powerhouse of cells in all complex organisms on Earth, has it's own DNA. It is theorized that several cell parts were once "free-living bacteria that were taken inside another cell as an endosymbiont, around 1.5 billion years ago." See Symbiogenesis for more. The nature and origin of mitochondria is very interesting and I could imagine a photosynthetic bacteria forming a similar symbiotic relationship with an alien life form. (PS: I really enjoyed the Parasite Eve game for PS1.)

Trivia 2: Some polar bears have been found with green-ish fur. But their fur is only green because the hair is hollow and sometimes algae grows inside.

Trivia 3: Sentient plants is a common trope in science fiction. Off hand, there are examples of this in comics (e.g., "Groot" and "Swamp Thing") and in the "Starflight" and "Star Control" series of games. There are also examples of this in fantasy (e.g., "Treants").
Centcomm 17th Mar 2015, 6:42 PM edit delete reply

There is more info on the Epiphytes and how they function on the Tech pages of Datachasers :D

But yes they can ingest proteins and sugars to get up the energy to be mobile :D they tend to be omnivorous as well at some stages of life
xpacetrue 17th Mar 2015, 11:09 PM edit delete reply

The tech page on Datachasers is quite interesting. And it does give a good overview of the Epiphytes. However, it does not go into their homeworld or how they evolved. I hope Luna Star will eventually go into more details.

This artifactus admits that they are quote, "plant-based." But does this mean they literally evolved from plants as we know them on Earth, or from a species that does not neatly fit human scientific classification?

Trivia 1: A fungus shares some traits of both plants and animals. Though, genetic studies show that they are more closely related to animals than to plants.

Trivia 2: Protists are microorganisms classified as separate from plants, animals, fungus, and bacteria. "Many protists, such as the algae, are photosynthetic and are vital primary producers in ecosystems, particularly in the ocean as part of the plankton." Some protists can cause diseases, such as sleeping sickness and malaria.
Centcomm 18th Mar 2015, 11:31 AM edit delete reply

Epiphytes are more of a Hybrid lifeform or a colony They have few actual internal organs like we do. They do have a defined Nerve cluster that helps organize body movement but they share many traits with body animals and plants. I will say that they are a progenitor race. They predate Human kind.
xpacetrue 18th Mar 2015, 1:31 PM edit delete reply

This also seems relevant. I'm reminded how the Epiphytes are connected via telepathy.

Smithsonian.com > Some Plants Eavesdrop (And Steal) Via an Underground Fungal Network

BBC > Plants communicate & help each other using an internet of fungus

They even compare it to the Avatar film:
[In the movie] " They can communicate and collectively manage resources, thanks to 'some kind of electrochemical communication between the roots of trees'. Back in the real world, it seems there is some truth to this. "
Centcomm 18th Mar 2015, 10:48 PM edit delete reply

yep to a degree you are talking about the "Seed and Tide"
Matt Knab 17th Mar 2015, 6:33 PM edit delete reply

However, do not look directly at the unstable solar body with one's visual receptors.

Pretty great reveal. I'm just hoping that One isn't fibbing, or programmed to give false info.
Centcomm 17th Mar 2015, 6:43 PM edit delete reply

I can safely say that he is not lieing to Galina :D
Morituri 17th Mar 2015, 8:22 PM edit delete reply
Well, at least they already know there's something wrong; she doesn't have to begin by filing a bug report. She can just append damage information to the entry in their existing bug database.
Centcomm 18th Mar 2015, 10:46 PM edit delete reply

hehe good one :D
Spelledeg 18th Mar 2015, 11:05 AM edit delete reply

Oooo, I love One's 'voice' this is so cool. I love how you've done Galina's expressions on this page too, you can see the curiosity and surprise.

I WAS RIGHT THOUGH, it was a greeting. So happy. I'm extremely happy they're friendly. OH I can't wait to see them(Alternatively I could and probably should start reading Datachasers too now)

Wonderful job with the panel composition on this page. It's gorgeous.
Centcomm 18th Mar 2015, 10:45 PM edit delete reply

hehe well you are all caught up on LS :D and thank you on the kind comments :D
xpacetrue 18th Mar 2015, 1:35 PM edit delete reply

That's an unusual-looking structure in panel 3. It looks crystalline or organic. Do they grow their own buildings?
Centcomm 18th Mar 2015, 10:45 PM edit delete reply

They do actually :D
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